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Featuring Michelle Ellsworth and Mark Amerika in conversation, this episode almost becomes an actual podcast, or at least moves in that direction, with the two artists talking about the relationship of physiology to memory and philosophy and what it means to produce signals that shift various dance and gestural forms into a mediated territory. What is the body's relationship to knowing and why do we always take this way? Michelle Ellsworth's work spans video, performable websites, drawing and live performances and employs absurdist humor, new technologies, monologue, and dance. She has exhibited or performed at Fusebox (Austin), On the Boards (Seattle), Counterpath (Denver), Chocolate Factory (Long Island City, NY), DiverseWorks (Houston, TX), Dance Theatre Workshop (New York City), and the Abrons Arts Center (New York City).